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Post by Quaddy on Jul 9, 2013 20:07:37 GMT -6
The basic idea with Cillian (George) and Danni is a sort of Cyrano de Bergerac idea; Cillian actually acts as a sort of matchmaker for Danielle and his brother Frederick, who is ailing and whom George believes needs the sort of vital energy Danielle can provide (also...something about keeping the fact of Frederick's illness secret?). In the process of wooing her, he himself falls in love with the woman he has picked for his brother, causing a lot of tension for himself (between what he wants for himself and what he wants for his family). For her part, Danielle is initially less-than-fond of Cillian, but not particularly interested in his brother, either; the match is a good one, however, and Gertrude insists upon it. As the wooing goes on, however, Danni comes to love George, recognizing in him far more passion than in Frederick (despite the supposed wooing). We haven't figured out yet how the big reveal will happen, but eventually it comes out that George is behind the passionate courtship. It will either happen before Frederick kicks the bucket or after; we're not sure. In any case, Frederick's illness will take a sudden turn for the worse and he will die, and Cillian and Danielle will becoming an acknowledged couple. Then, just when everything seems cool, Danielle's father will show up to destroy everything, forcing Cillian (well...George) to pull a Mr. Darcy and fix everything as a sign of his real love. But, you know, after we know they love one another, or else it really is just Mr. Darcy all over again. Matt and I aren't done planning, but these are the basics.
As far as my initial contribution to the overall plot is that the girls all get married at once, at the end. Their stories all end in marriage and together.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 9, 2013 21:36:58 GMT -6
I want Mari to slowly learn how to display her emotions. I imagine one reason she always seems so collected is because she doesn't pander her emotions around, not that it's a bad thing or that she doesn't want to but that the times in the past she's tried have been rather disastrous and awkward. lol
Perhaps there could be a disaster or maybe a war going on?
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 9, 2013 22:00:53 GMT -6
Well...let's see...um...there are the Napoleonic Wars, which lasted from 1803-1815 (from Austerlitz to Waterloo) and, from 1812-1814, the War of 1812. We could focus on the Peninsular Wars between 1807-1814, which featured the Duke of Wellington in a number of really cool battles. It's too late for Trafalgar, so Nelson is kind of dead...
Yeah. We can set this story against the backdrop of the Napoleonic Wars and the Peninsular Wars in particular. That'll give a sense of realism to our fictitious English town.
Do you and Zeph have a plan regarding the romance?
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 10, 2013 3:46:00 GMT -6
Unfortunately no. Haven't heard from him, lol.
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Post by Matt on Jul 10, 2013 9:55:56 GMT -6
It's because I want to play with the prejudices prevalent in British Society at the time - and one of those was sickness/weakness. Think of the treatment of Lady Catherine's daughter. Also, depending on the 'war' thing - I mean, we were pretty much always at war so that's not even a question - the fact that neither son is military would raise questions. The sons, especially of a family such as the Hamilton's, would be expected to have at least an honorary connection to the military. They would have gone to schools such as Eton or Harrow - maybe Winchester since it's very close to their family Seat - and they have strong military ties too.
I wish I'd done more of this era in British History. Ask me about Germany or Italy or Russia - I'm your guy. But it's not the most interesting of periods for us excepting the Napoleonic War and the rise of Manners. There's a phrase for it but I forget because my brain is mush.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 10, 2013 13:40:40 GMT -6
It's OK...nothing could be less interesting than this period in American history. It's just one stupid compromise after another leading up to the Civil War.
Oh, and some wars with Indians.
And Andrew Jackson (see wars with Indians).
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 10, 2013 21:39:44 GMT -6
Yay wars with Indians that lead to nearly complete dilution of the Native tribes into the American genome.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 10, 2013 23:14:38 GMT -6
YAY American genome!
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Post by Matt on Jul 11, 2013 2:54:29 GMT -6
Quaddy... Rouicia question please?
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 11, 2013 7:55:44 GMT -6
New Austen movie! ...Well... Kind of. Austenland looks funny and grand.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 11, 2013 14:55:29 GMT -6
I dunno...I don't particularly care for stuff like this. This seems a little too much like wish fulfillment and not enough Austen. And I don't really like Keri Russel, either.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 11, 2013 15:55:44 GMT -6
Haaha.
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Post by Matt on Jul 12, 2013 2:55:58 GMT -6
I agree with Quaddy on this one. And I'm the one who rewatches Pride & Prejudice every time something happens to me.
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Post by Matt on Jul 12, 2013 3:37:30 GMT -6
Saying that.... I will still watch it.
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Post by kat1147 on Jul 12, 2013 20:27:18 GMT -6
So I think Tileira and I have come up with our part =) So Lillian will meet Bronson while trying to play a bit of a matchmaker between her dear friend and Bronson's friend with whom he is staying. She, in her own shy little way, will be pulling strings here and there to bring the two friends together. Bronson sees the plotting going on (and eventually figures out it's lily's doing) and trying to "save" his friend from marriage, begins to politely throw a wrench in her plans whenever possible. So a bit of a rivalry forms between the two with Lillian trying to help a friend find happiness, and Bronson trying to stop what he feels like is a devious plot to take his friends freedom. So that's basically what we have now.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 12, 2013 21:35:36 GMT -6
Sounds good to me. Just waiting on Zeph and Beast.
Beast, man, have you heard from Zeph at all? We can probably get through the first round without knowing the overall romance plot...
OK, so here's what I had in mind for the overall. England is in the midst of the Peninsular War. (ZEPH, this means you have to figure out why Marshall is at home and not off fighting. Is he on leave? Injured? About to be deployed?) The arrival of the Hamilton clan to visit their sister is actually a big to-do. The Earl of Leyburn is the big man on campus in the county, and his wife's family are wealthy and preeminent in their own right, given that Frederick (Cillian's elder brother) is a Viscount. The Earl and his Lady Wife (Cillian's elder sister) will obviously throw a grand ball in honor of her family's arrival, which will set the scene for the first few rounds (everyone arriving, the ball being announced, preparing for said ball, and the ball itself). This ball will be the first opportunity for everyone to meet and for the fun romances to have their beginnings.
Now, for the purposes of this story...perhaps the Peninsular Wars have come to a close (a la Persuasion) and all of the Navy men are returning home. This would explain why Marshall is back in Moorhaven, and could actually set up why the son of a seamstress would be marrying the daughter of a senior member of Parliament/member of the Privy Council. So, the girls' father is The Right Honorable Mortimer Langley, MP. That being said...
ATTN ZEPH: The story might be eased if Marshall has returned from battle with an officer's rating...perhaps...master's mate, which is a midshipman who has taken (and passed) the exam for lieutenancy, but has not yet become a lieutenant. Perhaps part of the story involves him being introduced to Mortimer's attention, and he so impresses the girls' father, Mortimer recommends him to the Admiralty for a promotion to Lieutenancy. Then, when Marshall and Mari wish to marry, he would have achieved a rank (and perhaps some wealth in battle, from loot and whatnot) that would be suitable for marrying a Langley girl.
Anyway. There's a ball. That brings everyone together. Later there can be picnics, meetings at Church, daily visits, private dinners, etc. At the end, the girls marry together, and it is a huge party.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Jul 12, 2013 23:30:39 GMT -6
Not yet I haven't I'm going to start blowing up his emails lol.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 12, 2013 23:44:08 GMT -6
Will you direct his attention to the post above yours? It's got some information that might make things easier for you two to plan. As it stands, Marshall would not be the kind of man Gertrude would allow to marry her daughter. If he has come home from the wars with a smallish fortune and having served with distinction, part of their story could be Marshall's standing in society. He would have to have rank and wealth in order for his military distinction to bring him high enough into society to interact with people like the Langleys. His family might be well liked, but they are still service-class. But if he is a master's mate, all that's standing between him and a Lieutenancy is someone sponsoring him. So...perhaps part of the story is Marshall proving himself enough to Mortimer for the girls' father to get him the Lieutenancy, which would allow them to marry.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Jul 13, 2013 0:43:09 GMT -6
Omagosh I'm alive you guys...
And along with the remodel being done in the living room I also get to start full time at my job on Monday lol. Anyway I'm thinking maybe he's either injured or about to be deployed one of the two. Likely about to be deployed but I imagine that can complicate things depending on how long 'about to be deployed lasts'. As for sponsoring and such...I have no clue about that stuff.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 13, 2013 0:59:29 GMT -6
I do. I'll explain.
In this time, there is only so much being a good soldier/sailor can do for you. You have to be noticed by people in power; it's all about who you know. As Marshall doesn't come from a good family, he doesn't have the right connections to be brought to the Admiralty's attention. If part of his story is that he's already fought in the wars and risen up through the ranks on merit about as far as he'll go (master's mate) without an introduction/recommendation and made himself some small fortune (perhaps 10 thousand pounds?), it sets him up to meet someone who will make that introduction to him. Mortimer Langley is a Minister of Parliament and a member of the Privy Council (he's in the Home Office), he can make that sort of introduction and get Marshall a commission. From there, if Marshall continues to make himself known, he could eventually make Captain, but he needs someone like Mortimer to make that introduction.
For the purposes of the story, I really think placing it at the end of the Peninsular Wars makes the most sense for Marshall being in Moorhaven for a long period of time. If he's been gone for some years, he would look different and perhaps Mari would not recognize him as the Tenney boy/someone not in her social circle.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Jul 13, 2013 9:06:13 GMT -6
Ah I see. Okay so I should have him have been gone for a while and such, having bulked up and cleaned up and all that. The rank of master's mate is foreign to me so I'm having to fully go on your expertise on that, and actually a lot of this. As I said before, period stuff is really out of my element. So part of his family's goals for him, and his own really at this point, is to get Mortimer to perhaps sponsor him. He'll also have needed to have made a lot of money (10k)?
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 13, 2013 12:32:26 GMT -6
I wouldn't say it is a goal...especially not on his part. Perhaps his mother (you know mothers) is hoping he'll get advancement by introduction, but if Marshall were seen as cavalier or grasping, I don't know that Mortimer would think him suitable to the officer's uniform. So, he's home because he's out of the war and he hopes to make Lieutenant, but he's honest about it and definitely not scheming. Meeting Mari and getting the sponsorship would be serendipitous.
The Master's Mate is basically a Midshipman (the senior-most petty officer on board ship) who has taken and passed the test to be a Lieutenant, but has not yet been commissioned a Lieutenant by the Admiralty. The pay and responsibilities are a little higher, but he would still wear a Midshipman's uniform. You can actually Google 18-19th century British Naval Uniforms and it'll tell you what a Midshipman's uniform is.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Jul 13, 2013 20:17:45 GMT -6
Cool cool. SOOO his goal is to become a Lieutenant basically but he's just going to keep doing his normal duty regardless, and if someone notices then cool. Right now he's just enjoying not having to be out fighting.
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Post by Quaddy on Jul 13, 2013 20:44:05 GMT -6
Yeah, the great homecoming! Actually...
Get hold of a copy of movie Persuasion. The Amanda Root/Ciaran Hinds one is great, though some of the BBC specials are great, too. Wentworth's story is similar to yours except he came home a Captain after his ladylove turned him down for not being good enough for her (at the behest of her family). Marshall wouldn't have the same situation; he'd just be a returning sailor with a small fortune and a hankering to settle down. It just so happens that the woman he falls for is out of his social class. I do like the idea of Mortimer sort of being the hero in this situation; his recommendation of Marshall actually clears any last barriers.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Jul 14, 2013 0:41:40 GMT -6
Ah I see awesome! Okay cool. So now I just need to get with Beast on the details of their actual attraction. I can see him being interested in her in a challenge aspect at first since she doesn't laugh fully or show all of her emotions and that would be the gateway to him learning more about her and seeing her charms.
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