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Post by Mynt on Dec 9, 2012 13:00:47 GMT -6
Pfft, no fun.
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 9, 2012 18:16:25 GMT -6
A good Southern boy with an English dandy? Wasn't going to happen, darling.
Sounds good, Zeph. Abraham just turned into Gambit in my head, but that's totally cool.
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Post by Mynt on Dec 9, 2012 19:30:03 GMT -6
I guess... But I'm not a fan of stereotypes myself.
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 9, 2012 22:52:24 GMT -6
It's not a stereotype. Stereotype would be if he were ignorant and overly religious. And hated black people, as he does come from a relatively wealthy Southern family. I doubt Abraham is any of these. Well, he wasn't in my head. I mean, he became a Republican after the war. This was when the Republican party stood for bigger government (on a social level), and...you know...the Union. Any Southerner who becomes a Republican after the Civil War is definitely not a stereotype, I promise.
I think the idiosyncrasies of the character might be a product of my being a historian. I did dream this campfire right after writing my paper on Mosby.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 9, 2012 23:57:17 GMT -6
I think Connor is going to wind up rather pan-sexual. He was mostly straight before he lost his eyes, mostly. But now that he is pretty much without sight save for some basic shapes the goggles allow him and the soul seeing his tastes have evolved. Now he tends to flirt with anyone with a "pretty colour" as he says it.
He's still rather the quiet type so some people might not even realize he's flirting, lol.
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Post by Mynt on Dec 10, 2012 0:37:32 GMT -6
Mm, I don't think we're on the same page.
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Post by Matt on Dec 10, 2012 7:35:04 GMT -6
A good Southern boy with an English dandy? Wasn't going to happen, darling. Sounds good, Zeph. Abraham just turned into Gambit in my head, but that's totally cool. A good southern boy with an English dandy. I can guarantee IT HAPPENED. bwhaahahaha Also Gambit is hawt. |
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Post by Matt on Dec 10, 2012 7:36:32 GMT -6
I think Jonny is currently asexual. He doesn't think of himself as human enough for a sexual identity to really form.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 10, 2012 17:21:57 GMT -6
I think Jonny is currently asexual. He doesn't think of himself as human enough for a sexual identity to really form. Yet he was human once so wouldn't his sexual identity be there but merely pushed away do to perhaps some sort of shame in being less(or more) then human now? |
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Post by Mynt on Dec 10, 2012 17:37:36 GMT -6
Y'know, no one ever wants to play with me. I'm starting to take it personal.
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 10, 2012 21:11:53 GMT -6
Oh shush. We always want to play with you. Abraham is just too straight laced for that. Connor seems game, though, lol.
I happen to agree with Beast with relation to Jonny. It was there--he wouldn't have necessarily lost it. But I also agree with Matt that he is definitely asexual right now. Maybe not always, but definitely now. It would be something he would have to relearn. Possibly with Izzy, if I make up my mind to go that route.
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Post by Mynt on Dec 10, 2012 21:28:38 GMT -6
Psh, again I think we're on different pages. I'll figure something out.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 10, 2012 22:18:12 GMT -6
I wouldn't put it past Connor to flirt with Zeke. I do think Zeke would be rather blind to it with his crush on Abraham. oh fickle hearts.
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Post by Matt on Dec 11, 2012 15:40:30 GMT -6
That's pretty much what I meant...
As in... when you stop thinking of yourself as human, you can stop thinking of things like your sexual identity. Plus radical psychological changes can happen to alter aspects of the person you were before. Triggers for things - finding men or women more or less attractive than before is not unheard of after traumatic events either - your needs change and with them your desires.
Studies have been done apparently. I do my research.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 11, 2012 16:15:09 GMT -6
/hugs dragoon/ Glad to see we're on the same page! /brofist/
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 11, 2012 18:59:50 GMT -6
OK, that just makes me want to have the "Izzy makes the Beast human" storyline. She sees him as human and begins to convince him that he is human again. And then, on the stroke of midnight, she kisses him and he turns from a cyborg back into a man.
(I'm at Disney. My brain is full of sparkles and pixie dust right now.)
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 11, 2012 19:03:55 GMT -6
/breaks out the canned air/ Let's clear that up for ya, love.
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 11, 2012 21:12:05 GMT -6
Oh, absolutely not. I am on vacation, dammit.
But no...the Romantic in me (and I capitalize that for the movement) would want to re-humanize Jonny and have them end up together. Especially if *he* feels he has lost his humanity. Izzy is, I'm convinced, a reflection of myself (considering as she was my POV character in the dream I had, which I still remember even though it happened...2-3 years ago), so it makes sense that she would have the same Romantic sensibilities. It would upset her to know that Jonny feels he is no longer human, especially as she still sees him as such.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 12, 2012 2:30:52 GMT -6
But humans cannot repair that much personal/physical damage. Not with out some mighty magics and/or technology at their disposal. Medical science of that caliber is ruled out regardless of the steampunk technology advances such as the automatism sciences because those processes are in existence (As it is very rare for humans to study more then one direction of doing things in an era). As for magic there is magic in this world obviously but it doesn't seem to be the kind that is accessible to humans.
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Post by Matt on Dec 12, 2012 4:10:51 GMT -6
Well he could die and be brought back - body in tact.
Unlikely though. More likely, he gets a shiny fingered hand-arm offered to him but by that point he's like 'well dude I've already got phantom limb syndrome - you think I want another change?' and then it's like he's ok with himself. Then again, I've already that like FMA, his cyborg stuff is pretty agonising sometimes, having rust is like having a trapped nerve so go figure the rest.
Also I like the fistbump. I'm very British and fistbumping is so very very American, it makes me feel all included and shit.
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 12, 2012 8:17:38 GMT -6
Fistbumps are awesome. You've got to pound it and then explode it to do it right, of course.
Well, Iz and Jonny are pretty devoted to one another as it is. Even without the element of human sexuality or romance, they kind of belong to each other. No one will go near Izzy 'cause they all assume Jonny saved her in some gallant romantic gesture and won't get in the way of the giant cyborg gun arm. And there aren't many ladies in the organization, but those that are...well, there's a giant cyborg gun arm. So they're stuck together, anyway. She'll be taking care of him until the day he dies, so it's a sort of ersatz marriage anyway.
The Jonny in my dream did have a certain...relationship with the twins, however, of course. He sees their limbs and the mechanics they've been offered, which (aside from Connor's eyes) aren't noticeable at all. No one can tell Conner was boiled unless he takes off his goggles, which essentially give him passable vision (the goggles let him see sort of normally, whereas his eyes alone see only souls), and no one who doesn't know Brandon can tell he has mechanical arms. So they can have normal relationships. Jonny, on the other hand, has all the aesthetic (and, truth be told, medical) deficiencies of Britain's more old school prostheses. So there's meant to be a sort of push and pull between them: Jonny and Brandon each sort of wanting what the other has. 'Cause Brandon totally wants a steam gun.
Sorry, Zeph...Brandon's kind of a militant man.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Dec 12, 2012 12:44:34 GMT -6
I imagine Connor wouldn't treat Jonny as anything but a person as for the most part he only sees his soul. Especially if he didn't meet Jonny until after his eyes were taken. Which reminds me, is it okay that I have Connor having lost his eyes before adulthood? maybe spending years as a blind person before getting his procedure?
/Connor often wears his goggles to keep others from being uncomfortable looking at his eyes but also tends to leave them powered off./
(I love sensory disabled characters such as Blindness or Deafness so long as the story isn't singularly first person as that can be a SUPER hard thing to write as i myself am fully sighted. Though I have been nearly deaf before.)
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Post by Mynt on Dec 12, 2012 13:12:34 GMT -6
well i have lots of ideas for zeke, although im not enjoying the horrible dialects. >_>
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Post by Quaddy on Dec 12, 2012 19:23:02 GMT -6
Actually, I had planned that Connor and Brandon were actually mechs when it happened, which is why the organization footed the bill for his eyes and face to be reconstructed. If it happened when he was a child, he would not have been picked to join the Bureau. The only way I could see it happening that way is if Brandon joined the Mechs out of hatred for the fay and dragged Connor along, but then the organization would definitely have not covered the procedure. Brandon was already a bruiser, so they covered his surgery to make him better at what he already was.
If you can figure out a way for Connor to have joined the Mechs as a blind, pucker-faced young man (they joined around twenty, I'd say), have at it. But it was originally intended that the fay targeted he and his brother because they were Mechs.
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Post by Mynt on Dec 12, 2012 19:40:04 GMT -6
If Connor could see souls or whatever, why wouldn't they want him?
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