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Post by Quaddy on Jan 26, 2013 20:44:02 GMT -6
Yeah, it should.
You know it only happens once, right? She has sex ONE TIME with someone else. Now who's channeling their character? But it happens once and, yeah...with Colt. It's easier for me to set it up that way, since Tada isn't even there yet. Charon would be the other possibility, if Mia were to start flirting with him and sort of take advantage of his loneliness. Colt just kinda wants her already.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Jan 27, 2013 12:29:26 GMT -6
Lol yeah it should.
Ya, Tada's not going to get there till next add or the one after.
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 27, 2013 18:18:54 GMT -6
Team Shade!
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Post by Matt on Jan 27, 2013 19:04:36 GMT -6
I give up.
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 27, 2013 19:37:25 GMT -6
Oh good. I've broken you! Muahahahaha!
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 31, 2013 20:24:53 GMT -6
WHO THE HECK IS UP IN THIS THING?!
I want to write for this before I forget how to write for Rei and Shade.
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Post by Matt on Jan 31, 2013 20:30:46 GMT -6
It's not me right...?
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 31, 2013 20:33:31 GMT -6
I have no idea. I don't think so...Nope. Looks like Zeph.
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 31, 2013 22:37:20 GMT -6
OK, just so I have this down and not scattered throughout my head and so Matt can help me keep this shit in line...
Shade plans on using Rei (man do I favor 3-letter names) to assist in his rebirth. As it stands, she would be wiped from existence as her body and soul are unable to handle that level of power. Shade sees this as the only way (as far as he knows) and, thus, has never tried to change it. He also sees it as a sacrifice of one every few thousand years for all the millions of other people and, thus, sees no problem with it. But he is also trying to change the relationship between gods and their human worshipers, and to be a "better class of god" instead of the asshats that most gods are...and sacrificing Rei is something the old order does. He is especially concerned with his choice when he realizes he is falling in love with her and works to change the nature of the sacrifice. To make it so she doesn't die.
So Rei, when she finds out what Shade has planned (some time after she begins to trust him, but maybe not to love him--probably told by Elysia in order to break Rei free from Shade and thus keep him from being reborn) freaks out and is like "you wanna be a better god--how about not tricking someone into sacrificing their very soul and deciding that their life isn't less important than everyone else's lives". And Shade acknowledges his fault in this and reveals that he has used as much of his strength as he could spare to keep her alive and to change the balance of her soul so that she can survive the process.
Now I know eventually they get together and she agrees, and even Kenaz remarks that the chains that bind Shade and Rei are chains they forged together (as in not chains to be broken), and Rei becomes Bride of Death in truth, but I know there should be a period there when Rei seriously considers turning away from Shade. That she feels betrayed and stupid for trusting a god, and furious for thinking he was different and heartbroken (though she doesn't really understand why heartbroken) and Shade has to do something to win her back. And it comes into question whether or not Rei will decide to make any sort of sacrifice for Shade at all.
I admit this sort of stuff isn't my strength. Other peoples who write with me...ASSEMBLE!!!
Or, you know, throw out some ideas. None of this "let it roll" stuff, either, 'cause we all know I won't even if you tell me to.
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 31, 2013 22:49:30 GMT -6
Also, with the timeline. I was thinking some time in Terracotta land. Like...before they end the spell, in order to get Rei to turn against Shade and keep him weak even if the spell is destroyed. Like sort of a fail safe. Even if the Terracotta is destroyed, Shade is still weak until he can find another mortal to sacrifice and it can't be just any human. It takes time to mold a human like that. Especially for a god who's been weakened. Shade has already started molding Rei's soul...it's only as he falls for her that he begins to strengthen it enough to keep her alive through the process, essentially causing her to ascend. But yeah...I was thinking that during the time everyone else is trying to end the Terracotta (which isn't really Rei's time to shine, so to speak) is the perfect time for her to question everything. Maybe a good time to strengthen Kenaz' friendship with Rei, too...
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Post by Quaddy on Jan 31, 2013 22:55:56 GMT -6
Thank God I have you guys. Writing this sort of story on my own would drive me nuts.
And 40 until Anomandertopia!
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Post by Aldersmaine on Feb 1, 2013 7:15:21 GMT -6
It all sounds grand to me. I just wish the story would... move. lol
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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2013 7:56:05 GMT -6
Whose turn is it?
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 1, 2013 12:04:53 GMT -6
Zeph.
I admit that I am having issues in how to approach her crisis of faith. Rei knows the balance of the world is at stake and that the priesthood who hurt her did so because they stole Shade's power and his rebirth would end that, so there's no way she can't help him, really. On the other hand, he kept the truth from her and manipulated her soul without her knowledge (even though he did it with the best of intentions; i.e. keeping her alive and surviving the process) and didn't really tell her about all this. He was just going to use her and, even after the change of heart, he didn't tell her outright until Rei confronted him. 'Cause she wasn't (at this point) planning on staying with Shade. She was going to finish her contract and then go off into the wild blue yonder.
So basically, then, how does that mind shift work? How, when she is hurt and angry and yet burdened with the knowledge that she could bring down her enemies in the priesthood (the ones who stole her childhood from her) does she actually change her mind to not only love Shade, but want to stay with him after the whole deal? Because, in changing her soul, he is actually taking away her mortality in some sense. Only an ascended creature could survive the rebirth of a god.
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Post by Matt on Feb 1, 2013 12:37:58 GMT -6
Why does she have to die again? I thought that was Kenaz' job?
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Post by Aldersmaine on Feb 1, 2013 13:03:14 GMT -6
So basically, then, how does that mind shift work? How, when she is hurt and angry and yet burdened with the knowledge that she could bring down her enemies in the priesthood (the ones who stole her childhood from her) does she actually change her mind to not only love Shade, but want to stay with him after the whole deal? Because, in changing her soul, he is actually taking away her mortality in some sense. Only an ascended creature could survive the rebirth of a god. Perhaps he should had scenes often in the story, not only with her alone perhaps but with a few of the others as well. Kind moments, Harsh moments, but all moments where he has always kind of worked in favor of her? Helped her, even beyond the quest at hand that he benefits from.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 1, 2013 17:09:27 GMT -6
I'll try and add this weekend...
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Post by Aldersmaine on Feb 1, 2013 18:16:23 GMT -6
I'll try and add this weekend... That would be wonderful but don't let Quaddy bully you into rushing. lol
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 1, 2013 20:17:45 GMT -6
I am not bullying. I just want it to moooove.
Also, she would die without Shade's interference because no human can handle that amount of power coursing through them. Every time Shade has needed to be reborn (every few thousand years for most of existence, though Death was created in answer to Life when the gods realized not everything can be immortal if they are to remain supreme--they created mortality and, thus, Shade), a human has been obliterated. When Shade picked Rei, he did so because she ran from his Temple and that brought her to his attention. He made his deal with her--protecting her from the Temple so they wont kill her and removing their mark from her soul--mostly because she would (as much as I hate this phrase) kill two birds with one stone for him. But he intended for her to be the sacrifice for this rebirth. What makes Rei special is that he falls for her.
As for your suggestion, this is something I had planned. His being so...human, and kind to her (and others), is what makes finding out about his manipulations so hard for Rei. She has begun to think of him as something different than the other gods, for whom she has little respect. And this is because of his interactions with her and others. But when she finds out about what he has planned for her--and that he hasn't told her, or even asked her--she takes it really, really hard. The fact that he didn't tell her is bad, yes, and Shade knows this, but he wanted to keep her safe. He didn't want her to have to die and so, when he told her, he wanted to be able to tell her that she would be the first one to live through it. That he made it so she wouldn't die, and so her sacrifice would be mortality instead of existence. But she shoots back that a normal life was the only thing she ever wanted, and he tells her that that was impossible--her normal life was stolen from her by his Temple--and so he had assumed bringing them crashing down would help soothe her soul.
I have a lot of it written out in my head, I just don't know how to turn the corner and have Rei not only forgive him, but realize she loves him.
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Post by Aldersmaine on Feb 2, 2013 3:02:20 GMT -6
Perhaps that will come as events unfold.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 2, 2013 3:06:59 GMT -6
Yeah...that won't work for me. Having something that important to the essence of my character is not really an organic thing for me. I need to understand this because it shapes how I write for Rei now, not just when it happens. It's basically the core of her character; what makes Rei, well, Rei.
I am up at 4am cleaning my carpets and planning Rebel Earth out as we speak. Just my addition for now, but also the entire campfire. Things are adding up so well.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 2, 2013 20:22:51 GMT -6
MAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT, I neeeed you.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 2, 2013 20:23:28 GMT -6
Wait. I sent you an e-mail about this, didn't I? I did. Never mind.
And 2000.
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Post by Matt on Feb 2, 2013 20:35:42 GMT -6
Wait you sent an email? When? Because I need to reupgrade but I only noticed today and by that point I was in bed and unwilling to leave it again.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 2, 2013 20:59:58 GMT -6
Um...Friday? Thursday?
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