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Post by Matt on Feb 12, 2013 12:55:55 GMT -6
I think we'd all be uppity if we were being hunted for food. It's not like we've got lower consciousnesses and our self awareness is our greatest motivator for self preservation....
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 13:08:54 GMT -6
Yeah, I'm gonna go with what he said. I'd get pretty up in arms if Ted Nugent decided he was gonna hunt me down and eat me for being sane...
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Post by Mynt on Feb 12, 2013 16:35:00 GMT -6
Yeah, but not if there wasn't a time you could remember mankind being free. If you were raised up and taught that this was all there was, being slaves or getting eaten...
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 16:54:03 GMT -6
If that were the case, what about slaves in American history? There's tons of historical evidence to the contrary to be found there...except the Nat Turner rebellion, the Underground Railroad, the "necessity" of the Fugitive Slave Act, the Dredd Scott case...
You don't need to have experienced freedom to know that you want it and to want to fight for it.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 16:54:33 GMT -6
Not except. Especially.
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Post by Mynt on Feb 12, 2013 16:57:14 GMT -6
If that's how you see it.
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Post by Matt on Feb 12, 2013 17:20:47 GMT -6
Well I guess I just see it as like... many many black slaves were born slaves but there's still the stories of freedom and songs of freedom that make it worth dreaming and fighting for. Similarly, if you look at any instance of slavery in any historical context - from slaves in Mycenae, the Jews in Egypt, the Slavs under the Varagians to examples of the villains of the feudal system or the serfs in Russia (right up until late 18th Century) - each and every example has rebellions, upheavals, revolts, rebels.
It's not in humanity's nature to take shit lying down. Not everyone anyway. There's always that person who wants to start a fire.
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Post by Mynt on Feb 12, 2013 17:23:00 GMT -6
That, I get. But I was just saying.
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Post by Matt on Feb 12, 2013 17:28:06 GMT -6
Sorry - that wasn't meant to come out as a lecture ha ha. I've spent too long today studying rebelling angels and Satan's awesome AWESOME speech in Paradise Lost. Better to reign in Hell than to serve in Heaven.
I'm clearly being indoctrinated.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 18:54:47 GMT -6
Damn that Milton...
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Post by Matt on Feb 12, 2013 18:57:34 GMT -6
Thad sexy mudderfocker (this is literally straight from the mouth of my peruvian classmate who heard me talking about Eve being eroticised in Eden)
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 19:09:06 GMT -6
Erotic Eve...I think Lyn just blushed...
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Post by Matt on Feb 12, 2013 19:41:37 GMT -6
Come on Quaddy my dear, you know as well as I that Eve is one of the most erotic figures in literature.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 12, 2013 21:43:15 GMT -6
I know. But Lyn isn't erotic at all.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 13, 2013 10:45:27 GMT -6
Yeah I'm with Quaddy on the whole thing of how they view needing freedom. Not to mention several LSO and several of their civilians were born in base and were never slaves.
Oh right I forgot to mention. Given that this is set in the future, humans lifespans are quite a bit longer. We live in our prime for a bit longer and age degrades us slower given we have access to the proper medicine and dieting and such, not to mention sheer evolution. For example. Regan is somewhere in the neighborhood of about 36 if I remember correctly, but aside from some of the stress (and I believe she smokes) showing a bit she appears to likely be in her early thirties and won't change much physically until she hits about her sixties. Average full lifespan for an LSO protected civilian is about 97 years. LSO themselves live about the same given they are not captured, killed, or otherwise disposed of. They are decommissioned at the age of 60 for one year and if all psych evals are green after that they can choose to continue or retire.
Oh and also, so we're decided on just having Mynt's character already as a member and then simply referencing his first days as LSO at other points in the story correct? Cool if so.
I think Erol will actually be pretty nice and charismatic as usual with the person, but inwardly is still a bit suspicious.
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Post by Mynt on Feb 13, 2013 11:51:53 GMT -6
K.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 13, 2013 19:06:05 GMT -6
Does she smoke?
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 14, 2013 9:27:11 GMT -6
I think she does. Maybe not actually.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 14, 2013 12:41:19 GMT -6
That's odd. Usually my characters hate smoking...
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 14, 2013 13:14:34 GMT -6
You're probably right though. I may be thinking of someone else. It doesn't seem entirely likely that she would. Very few LSO do.
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Post by Matt on Feb 14, 2013 13:33:28 GMT -6
A few of my characters smoke. Not sure if they did in this though.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 14, 2013 15:53:55 GMT -6
I think Regan views smoking as a weakness, and she doesn't believe she can have weaknesses and lead her men.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 15, 2013 5:34:58 GMT -6
Well, alrighty then.
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Post by Quaddy on Feb 15, 2013 12:15:44 GMT -6
Yes, that decides that.
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Post by Zephyr Shenkiken on Feb 17, 2013 9:05:34 GMT -6
I remember the tattoo guy was an old dude named Roger and his nickname was the simply "Ink Man" moniker.
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