The Girls of Moorhaven

[Quaddy]

Unless it's the opposite way, of course. That she learns to let loose a little more and not concern herself with society's nonsense.

[Quaddy]

Danni probably won't change much. She's too stubborn to kowtow to peoples' expectations of her. If she does change, it'll be to think a bit more before she does things, but other than that? Nope. She's right where she wants to be as a character.

[Aldersmaine]

lol i'll take that into consideration.

[Matt]

That's not necessarily true Beast (although I do see your point about needing a conflict somewhere). Have you ever read Sense & Sensibility? If not - watch the film haha. It has Kate Winslet and Alan Rickman and a bunch of others in it. I personally watch it for Alan Rickman. But the character played by Emma Thompson is definitely meant to be the 'together and dignified' sister but there's so much going on with her and she does grow. She's actually a really amazing character.

[Aldersmaine]

^_^ that's good to hear.

I suppose I generally consider Together and dignified as "Perfect" lol Perfection tends to be boring.

[Quaddy]

Eleanor Dashwood is the character's name. I agree with Matt in every way, shape, and form. Eleanor is definitely the composed, dignified, together one and her story is by far my favorite. She tries so hard to keep it together for everyone because someone has to, and she always sacrifices her own feelings for others (especially since her sister has no sense whatsoever) even if she is ready to collapse from the pressure. I adore Eleanor so much, and if she hadn't ended up happy, I would have shit a brick.

Seriously, beast, watch the movie Emma Thompson wrote the script and she is a serious Austenite, so the movie is fantabulous. Eleanor is exactly what I had in mind with Marian...perhaps even more so than Meg, who just seems happy with her lot in life.

[Quaddy]

There should be a period between movie and Emma.

[Quaddy]

I am also having some issue filling the last spot...Marian's pair. I want to offer it to Zeph, but I'm not sure he's up for another campfire. This isn't really a difficult story...

ZEPH, GET ON W.COM AND ACCEPT THIS INVITE!

[kat1147]

I am having a sudden desire to stay up late watching Emma and the whole pride and prejudice mini series with Colin Firth. Thanks for that. lol.

[Quaddy]

Emma and Fanny Price were always my least favorite Austen characters. I always preferred Eleanor, Anne Eliot, and Elizabeth myself.

You know, this is something that usually gets me some raised eyebrows, I really enjoy the Matthew MacFadyen version of P&P. I also love that we refer to the various versions of P&P by which actor plays Darcy.

[tileira]

Meh, sorry Quaddy, I always feel that version is a let down. Lizzie dreams through the plot without paying any attention, and then suddenly bursts out into passion without any simmering in between. I didn't like it. I know they had to compress it, but it really feels like everyone else is just scenery, and that Lizzie knows they're just scenery.

I got to the end and had no idea how Lizzie and Darcy had actually fallen in love, or what was going on most of the time. Maybe that's why they added the kissing scene on the end: so that you realised the movie was concluded.

[Aldersmaine]

As much as I tire of Kiera Knightley, it's her Pride & Prejudice that I love the most, Save for the Spoofy "Lost in Austen" miniseries.

I loved Emma, and i'm trying to find a copy of Sense & Sensibility now.

[tileira]

Somehow I got stuck on Bronson's physical description, but I've Added the bio now.

[Quaddy]

Okie dokie!

See, I thought this version was much better at the romance than the Firth one, which focused too much on the manners issue. Firth...was awesome. I saw him fall in love. Ehle as Lizzie got the more mature, arch side of Elizabeth, but I never saw HER fall in love. For me, Lizzie always sort of fell in love with Darcy's house more than him in that version. Firth had all the passion.

[tileira]

Maybe, but Knightley's Lizzie barely seems like a person to me, or at best a very self-centered one. Ehle is more like Lizzie overall. It feels like a movie made by people who don't appreciate the book, for people who haven't read it. I wouldn't say Knightley showed more passion, just that the movie as a whole was fluffier.

[Aldersmaine]

Perhaps so but fluff can be fun lol

[Aldersmaine]

Posted.

I do hope I made an interesting character out of her.

[Quaddy]

I think a lot of people don't realize how self-centered Lizzie really is! I adore the book--it's been one of my favorites for over a decade--and I think people forget that Elizabeth is self-centered, and convinced of her own superiority in just as obnoxious a manner as Mr. Darcy. In fact, I think Darcy's self-obsession is more a defensive mechanism, to insulate himself from people he doesn't understand/don't understand him, than Elizabeth's, who does it for amusement. I've always liked Darcy better than Elizabeth, and while Ehle got Lizzie's archness down pat, I think Knightley got her immaturity. A twenty-one year old, relatively isolated woman who's almost universally liked and convinced of her own superiority/the superiority of her world view? I think Knightley did that almost better than Ehle did, who played Lizzie in a far more mature, literal manner. I feel the same way about Firth/MacFadyen; Firth is far more literal, but not bad. For me, Firth's Darcy does, to a certain extent, believe in his own superiority, whereas MacFadyen's Darcy uses it far more as a distancing mechanism. But both interpretations are correct, and both have merit, as well as support from the text.

There you go, Matt! I took Literature classes as well as History classes!

[Matt]

Just to add my tuppence to the conversation =) I tend to agree with you Q. In fact the Kiera Knightly Pride&Prejudice is probably my favourite film at the moment. And all this talking about them falling in love... it's so much more beautiful and mannered in the KK version I think. Because it's subtle, in the background of each scene, in the way the camera turns and angles. Seriously, the cinematography is just really clever and elegant. And I think that supercilious side to Lizzie comes out in both the camera and the music. Plus you get such a sense of how Darcy responds to her without it ever being made explicit (which I kind of felt it became in the Firth version)...

I'm sending you an email about Cillian.

[Aldersmaine]

Matt You are the bomb. Thank you for explaining the exact way I feel about that movie, lol.

[Quaddy]

He is much better about it than I am. I agree with the cinematography especially; it really acts as a storytelling device in the '05 version. Joe Wright is actually really good about that sort of thing, I think. A lot of his movies have such polish.

[Quaddy]

An e-mail about Cillian?! YAY!

[Matt]

I think the Hamiltons haven't yet arrived in Moorhaven - they will soon though. Is that ok? They might be visiting their sister... or something.

[Quaddy]

Okie dokie! Sounds good to me.

[Aldersmaine]

ERMAGURD! Marian, in my head at least, after talking a little to Zeph about her... She's FEMALE DARCY!